UBERTI ITALY and the serial number. They are the earliest Navy Arms made. Click Here to log in. There are no chips or cracks. The top of the barrel is marked "A. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Got an older Navy Arms Remington "Zouave" with barrel mfg. Aldo Uberti S.r.l. 2) It is not unusual to find one or more of the Proof marks lightly stamped. We found all the controls to be smooth, including the loading gate at the front of the rifle. Last but not least we have Euroarms, which prior to December, 2001, was known as Armi San Paolo. The front sight was slightly shiny, and we chose to blacken it to get a better sight picture in our late-fall light. The stocks have some light compressions, nicks and handling marks. r2 e< 1{Vk)} The stamp is not a part in the serial numbers, and it is normally found on Frame in [ ] brackets. 0000052548 00000 n 0000080589 00000 n any one know who manuf. S/N 7171. Minimal tooling marks on inside of brass. Part Owner of the Irish Cattle Company, Held hostage in NY(But I'm spying on the Yankees), Shooting, Old British Motorcycles,Shooting, Harleys, Shooting.SV188 0000039738 00000 n 0000037713 00000 n I have a muzzleloading pistol with IGE on it and says Italy .44 cal. Could it be one of those? Each and every one of these guns must undergo testing at the Proof house and be stamped with the appropriate acceptance marks. it has a dove tailed rear sight and post front sight. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. All markings are from Italy in 1982. The Henry rifle worked well enough but had a nasty job of overbuffing, we thought, that gave the brass action a mirror polish at the expense of destroying the edges of the octagonal flats of the barrel. 0000057470 00000 n Great find and it's worth preserving this very collectible piece. If this were a copy of an 1873 Winchester, youd have to choose 44-40 (or 38-40) for authenticity, but if youre shooting the 1860 Henry in those matches, it doesnt matter which incorrect caliber you choose. Be advised there are some hot 45 LC loads, such as from Buffalo Bore, that probably ought not to be used in this rifle, certainly not as a steady diet. 0000011024 00000 n 5 per cent of births in the late 1990s were twins . In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal . 3) Armi San Marco name stamp (1994) 4) The distinctive Uberti logo. The bottom tang has a proof mark with a "U" inside of it. 22 HORNET". Some proof marks on side of frame and the roman numeral XX. There, you should find a roman numeral or two character alphabetical stamp. As a young boy I had the privilege of hunting rabbits with my great grandfathers Henry rifle that belonged to his father and now belonged gs to my Uncle. 5) The palm tree logo of Palmetto Arms. The technical storage or access that is used exclusively for anonymous statistical purposes. Thanks for the info Gaz. As with all previously owned firearms, a thorough cleaning may be necessary to meet your maintenance standards. It had an extremely heavy trigger pull. The above manufacturers turn out tens of thousands of firearms each year and most, if not all, of these weapons are copies of those used and made in nineteenth century America. There were no failures to feed, fire, or eject. Pietta always has the proofmarks and the datecode on the right side of the frame. H\@OQEcb{+ nb~{:0|wvrqrkx?:S],\hi~,]#M=m.0Mn6sjZ]e/&oKZ!b>^SM U\bw~tWcV.Y,qd^"+"!b^!{w{=2i3{dad:=Npz:=~E~e~MYxGxGxGxGxGx=SOA>} I have always wanted one of my own so about 12 years ago I purchased a Uberti 1860 Henry and absolutely loved it! There were ultimately 5 variations of the Remington Rolling Block pistol culminating with the Model 1871. 7) Mark on a recent Euroarms revolver. 0000013676 00000 n 0000013906 00000 n 0000050678 00000 n I have a .50 cal rifle, nobody can tell me anything about this rifle. The design was sold to the US Government, but it was never adopted for use by the military despite being a mechanically sound firearm. 5) The palm tree logo of Palmetto Arms. It is in the 2,000 serial range and has GU mark. There are typically three stamped mark on every italian made black powder rifle, shotgun and revolver. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. The top of the barrel is marked A. The recently introduced line of firearms from Palmetto Arms is marked with the company logo of a palm tree within a circle, sometimes followed by the name, PALMETTO. However, the only proof mark I can find that looks like a 'house' proof is on the butt of the gun: a PR where the P and the R are overlapped, right next to the 3-digit serial #. My first thoughts are that they may be Section 1 firearms so I would recommend that you go to a local firearms dealer and ask his advice if you do not have them on FAC. 0000080946 00000 n Their health and their love.I love The people I have gotten to meet in sass and the ones that have just talked to on the wire.I do like to shoot and pick on people at the shoot.I love the hugs I get and the ones I will get when I meet some on you people. Both these guns are very well made, not junk, both have serial numbers and also say Pat. In our October 2015 issue, we took a hard look at the Henry Repeating Arms Original Rifle in a test that included a Winchester 1892, both rifles in 44-40 WCF. RIDGEFIELD N.J. MADE IN ITALY" and there are Italian proof marks at the chamber including the date code "AA". Written and photographed by Ray Ordorica, using evaluations from Gun Tests team testers. Overall Condition:The pistol retains about 95% of its metal finish. Each manufacturer also stamps or engraves their own name and/or logo on the various guns that they produce. 0000039418 00000 n The wood finish is glossy and perfect. maybe I can get a little more info. 0000001474 00000 n 0000004778 00000 n Enjoy the thrill of shooting a gun from the Old West and experience how history repeats itself. By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use. We tested mainly with PMC cowboy-type ammo, which is a mild load with a hard lead bullet. Copyright 2019 sassnet.com It was sold through Beeman's catalog in 1984. OCT. 16. 3l\9/OEK0joW/L242:ORES\";OhBzP%% - eupGHsP/Y$T y&$ iJ.iO7+asMi3>6fV#iBM u*wzY!.biCEy;Z7yA+lpNQFP+dV4N5t i 0000028135 00000 n 0000110238 00000 n endstream endobj 36 0 obj <> endobj 37 0 obj <>/ColorSpace<>/Font<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageC]/ExtGState<>>>/Type/Page>> endobj 38 0 obj <> endobj 39 0 obj <> endobj 40 0 obj [/DeviceN[/Black]/DeviceCMYK 63 0 R 64 0 R] endobj 41 0 obj <> endobj 42 0 obj <>stream Italy" is on the bottom of the barrels. Not all numbers in this range were used. 0000003744 00000 n document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); You have entered an incorrect email address! I can't find it through their pictures. I belong to an on-line forum, called,"1858Remington.com. To our knowledge that problem does not exist with the 44-40 version, so if you opt for this caliber, use some sense in choosing your ammunition. Reaction score. The operation of the action is smooth and the fit of the action's side plates is excellent. -Ec]]`iBd[&QE~t|J3Wva64v0-uy6Owi.x1:y14y=l*^>rv^)eO>S^)zy^Qp.6CTZ=_"qU[f!=xKw2"+pMlb/}-g%0_/3LA0G#%gC_`uC/}uEpV:+kk by F.A.R.A; It appears to be a notch or two higher quality in fit & finish to the many such repros of this rifle I've seen over the yearsanyone have knowledge of the maker? The technical storage or access is necessary for the legitimate purpose of storing preferences that are not requested by the subscriber or user. The Old Model started production in 1861 with the slightly improved New Model Army coming out in 1863 . Very nicely finished. Powered by Invision Community. %PDF-1.4 % Good luck on your bid! These are the guns that REALLY, "Won The West!" Aldo Uberti S.r.l. However, the only proof mark I can find that looks like a 'house' proof is on the butt of the gun: a PR where the P and the R are overlapped, right next to the 3-digit serial #. "Subject to the will of the Crown!" Looking at these 1860s point by point, we realized we were looking for a rifle that would trump Henrys Henry and it would be no easy task for the Uberti to take down the namesake 1860. 0000039614 00000 n how to tell Pedersoli from Pietta on 1858 Remington New Army, "You've got to do your own growing, no matter how tall your grandfather was. They made two versions of the Colt 1855 sidehammer revolver, one in .31 calibre and the other in .36. Both made in 1976 it has markings but no manufacture marks I would like to know who made them ? 0000012438 00000 n If you don't Facebook PM me the details of the rifle and I'll make sure he gets it. Lock, Stock & Barrel Investments . I have one 4 revolving barrel handgun, percussion, double action, looks like 36 caliber. UBERTI & C. GARDONE V.T. Hello. 0000067226 00000 n A copy of a letter dated June 6, 1988 on the Aldo Uberti & Co. letterhead to Kevin Cherry (Cherrys, 2703 High Point Rd., Greensboro, NC 27403) showing the model (all are single action rev.), barrel length (4 , 5 , 7 and 10 inches) and caliber (.44 Mag., .22Conv., .22 LR and .22 CAL), and serial numbers of 65 revolvers. Italian proof mark is rather straight forward, normally one . 0000005085 00000 n Once this unconstitutional law is struck down or repealed, this restriction will be removed. Thanks. Barrel is marked "Navy Arms Ridgefield NJ - Italy" and the upper tang is marked "CAL 22 LR". Its not as fast to reload as, say, a Winchester 1873, but it does hold lots of ammo. Cherry's Fine Guns Home Page Commemorative Firearms, https://www.colt.com/Customer-Services/Archive-Services, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stainless_steel. THE AMERICAN SPIRIT. The left side of the frame has Italian proof marks. 0000005051 00000 n OCT. 16. It looks a lot like an Armi Sport pistol. 0000050991 00000 n On a visit to the Uberti factory I saw an example of an aged Colt 1860 Army revolver and had it not been for the Italian marks it could very easily have passed as an original. The lever springs out of a Uberti 73 are the same as the ones one of this 22.I am thinking it is a Uberti but me thinking is not always a good thing. The main difference between Taylor's and Cimirron will be the Importer's Marks. See Attachment 2 for description of a Phantom revolver and Attachment 3 for a copy of this telex. Unlike the other rifle, this one came with a comprehensive yet brief manual that told how to operate it all. Ther are no markingsunder the wood grips. In the picture below you can see first the year of manufacture "BM" indicating it was made in 1999. 0000011515 00000 n 0000008224 00000 n 0000062843 00000 n The order was signed J. The era of reproduction Western firearms began in the early 1950s when Val Forgett, of the American Navy Arms company, visited this area of Italy in search of a manufacturer who could make a copy of the Colt 1851 Navy revolver. Be sure to match the rifles caliber to that of your handguns as you ride off into the sunset to your next shooting match, just as they did in the Old West. I find strange that an Uberti gun has no date code. I still adore my Uberti but my Henry Original is hands down the superior rifle of the two reproductions. 0000050889 00000 n We accomplished that with a Sharpie, and that helped our groups. This gun has no Italian proof marks and is not marked blackpowder only. Prior to 1954 the year of proof was stamped on the guns in Arabic numerals, but this new coding system was introduced around the time of the first reproductions. These are very scarce and near impossible to find in such fine original condition. Englishmen are not CITIZENS, they are SUBJECTS! 0000011827 00000 n trailer i Have a black powder pistol with the star circle over PN with AC in a square next to it and the crossed rifles with the star circle over it and it has 2115 R a P over an R and FTE Italy on the butt. In the early days of the Navy Arms / Uberti connection, Gregorelli actually produced the metal parts for the revolvers and Uberti assembled them. 35 45 Any way to know what year? Length of pull - 13 1/8" (to center of buttplate) Approx. 0000002293 00000 n They were produced by Gregorelli and Uberti. "I'll help you down the trail and proud to!" Black Powder Date Codes. 7) Mark on a recent Euroarms revolver. The rear sight is a square-notch leaf and elevator dovetailed to the rear of the barrel. there are other marking but they are not readable. It will make a nice addition to any collection, especially as a companion gun to a rifle chambered for the same cartridge. We also tried, but did not record, Remington factory ammo and some handloads. x4hjF%1I'WVH">^I*Yt} FSYD"}di)IK n!Hhf$=o:k$y}$*&L(\G'zyKdlG?Q\7>>SSV6K#OqDSIpzNh~~ x #=l%l&U ps~31H^$qB^7'0]?Ew#E=9+|uL>k/,xS-7wiN=KqOF` m2; ul_w`N` Lv endstream endobj 36 0 obj 741 endobj 37 0 obj << /Filter /FlateDecode /Length 36 0 R >> stream To become a member $3 for one day $7 one month or $15 one year Click to join here. Note! However, a shoulder on the bullet will never help matters. 0000005072 00000 n We were extremely gratified to see a company making such a high-grade version of the old Henry, never mind where in the world its made. 0000078548 00000 n Ubertis 1860 Henry Rifle Trumps Henrys Original Lever-Action, Sturm, Ruger Rolls Out Significant New Pistols, Revolvers, and Rifles, Ruger American Long-Range Target (LRT) 8378 22 LR. We suspect itd be a delight with black powder. 0000078152 00000 n 1) An example of a full set of Proof and makers marks on a Pedersoli pistol. Gunmart.net is the largest shooting resource and review based website, using the resources of Britain's biggest and most comprehensive magazines - Gun Mart, Shooting Sports and What Gun. COLT 1873 BUCKHORN S.A. TARGET (TMR) cal .44 Magnum. Because I am an Amateur Historian, I carry for Self-Defense, one of three identical five and a half inch barreled, Remington 1858's, in a shoulder holster. Without a subpoena, voluntary compliance on the part of your Internet Service Provider, or additional records from a third party, information stored or retrieved for this purpose alone cannot usually be used to identify you. )9/q3YgYHH}c. This replica is chambered for a modern cartridge, making for an interesting pistol suitable for target shooting and varmint hunting. If you can send some pics of the guns and close ups of the marks to the magazine they should forward them to me and I may be able to help. 0000008724 00000 n The crest consists of crossed rifles with bayonets and a hammer and anvil. 0000005942 00000 n While the action was not quite so glossy as the Henry version, it still reflected much like a mirror and was, like the barrel flats, dead flat. A chart of Italian proof marks is Attachment 1. ITALY. 0000027918 00000 n This mark was also introduced in 1950. California recently rushed through legislation making it unlawful to communicate to those under 18 about broad categories of firearms, parts, and accessories. The right side of the frame is marked . Hb``a``=P @1630i`@GDTVs(R {g i 23>`.0,p?PA! 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